0:00:00 – Opening
0:02:39 – McNamara’s Folly. The Use of low-IQ troops in the Vietnam War.
2:19:13 – Final thoughts
2:44:29 – How to stay on THE PATH.
3:02:35 – Closing gratitude.
Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content
9 Comments
Add comment Cancel reply
This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.
Usually Jocko is calm, balanced, and hard to read emotionally. This podcast stands out because you can clearly hear the rage in Jocko’s voice whilst conveying the many blunders by McNamara, and his arrogant disregard of the value of Human Resources. Jocko even lets a couple expletives slip which is very rare.
At the conclusion of this podcast I felt like I needed a shower. Hearing about the policy decisions forced by McNamara made me feel as if I’d been rolled in filth.
Thank you for sharing these hard truths and historical blunders. Hopefully they will never be repeated.
Also one of your chairs needs a shot of lube.
lmao
Why can’t I download this podcast
I relistened to this podcast. I am ordering the source materials to get a more complete understanding of this history.
I found two parts of this podcast interesting enough to grab to books. The first is when a junior leader would recognize the most vulnerable nature of these mentally limited soldiers and offer some measure of protection in the chaotic environment of war. The second is hearing the stories of when tasked with a low stress environment and somewhat mundane task these soldiers did outstanding service. Jocko had a quick discussion of stress reactions which drove home the point.
I’ve listened to pretty much every podcast you and Echo have put out. And I have taken a lot from what y’all share. But personally this one blow me away.
Not just the history. I have never heard of that. I felt like an idiot. Now I’m going to dig a lot more into it. But I feel like every other turn. I saw something else about information that is absolutely priceless to everyday life and living in society.
Thank you for everything you guys bring.
God Bless.
Jocko, this episode makes me so made at the Army, government, and the dodgers. Once again the government abuses their power and hurts the citizens.
I get the military didn’t have choice but how many lives did they ruin. Guy did hard time because he refused to train.
The guys who ducked the draft and the reasons are incredible. Rich white guys.
The story is unbelievable.
I’d like to hear Jocko compare McNamara’s 100k project to the Iraqi Security Forces training and what chain of command pressures were similar and different. I believe there are similarities in the chain of command where pressure was applied to lower ranks in both situations to get it going.
Jocko should discuss how the 100k project by McNamara and the training of the Iraqi Security Forces differed and how they were comparable in terms of chain of command demands. I think there are parallels between the two instances in the chain of command where pressure was put on lower ranks to keep things moving.
Jocko ought to compare and contrast the chain of command requirements of the 100k McNamara project and the training of the Iraqi Security Forces. I believe there are similarities between the two instances where subordinates were under pressure to keep things moving up the chain of command.